Wednesday, December 31, 2008

Would You Like Hate Speech With That Legislation?

(The links here go to two places. Either the text of our wondrous Racial and Religious Vilification Act of 2001 and a particularly interesting discussion over at the MuslimVillage Forum.

MV is a forum for muslims in Australia, and while I used to be a regular reader, I just don't have the time to continue; plus I find it difficult going at times, since my views are so totally different to the contributors there.

The thread linked to is a very long, and very interesting read. In more ways than one. I would suggest if you have the time, please read it all, and consider....


no one accepts racism for long in any form on this forum. and the same standards should apply to all.

9. Motive and dominant ground irrelevant

(1) In determining whether a person has contravened section 7 or 8, the
person's motive in engaging in any conduct is irrelevant.

(2) In determining whether a person has contravened section 7 or 8, it is
irrelevant whether or not the race or religious belief or activity of another
person or class of persons is the only or dominant ground for the conduct, so
long as it is a substantial ground.

10. Incorrect assumption as to race or religious belief or activity

In determining whether a person has contravened section 7 or 8, it is
irrelevant*
whether or not the person made an assumption about the race or
religious belief or activity of another person or class of persons that was
incorrect at the time that the contravention is alleged to have taken place.

26. Incorrect assumption as to race or religious belief or activity

In determining whether a person has committed an offence against section 24 or
25, it is irrelevant* whether or not the person made an assumption about the
race or religious belief or activity of another person or class of persons
that was incorrect at the time that the offence is alleged to have been
committed.


Let me also just note here for the record of this discussion, that I hold the Jewish state of Israel to be illegimate and without right of existence. Nor is a two-state solution acceptable. Israel, as a state, must be removed from the Islamic lands and Islamic rule must be re-established. This is the Islamic ruling on this matter.

looks like those terrorist masters of your zionist ideology have alredy sent their killer chanukah well wishes to provoke palestinians in those occupied territories. talk about celebrating freedom and oppressing others on daily basis for decades

Keep going! you are doing a great job! While your illegal state is beginning its killing machine in Gaza, it is your role to cover up for what they are doing by defending those Nazi-style atrocities.

We ask Allah to rid the world of this cancerous tumor and all its criminal shameless criminal supporters across the world.


Israel as a state will never be accepted. Not a single inch of Islamic land will ever be given up . It us our obligation to safeguard the lands and all peoples who live on the land whether they are jew or Muslims.

In due time, you will witness the collapse of Israel as a state, but dont think that Muslims will be as barbaric as the Jews and expell the jews completely and murder them. After justice is had and all land is returned to the rightful owners, jews will live peacefully under the shade of islam just as they have been since the time of the Prophet pbuh.

Was it the muslims who tried to exterminate the jews or was it the Europeans ??? Was the nazi regime run by Muslims ?

Don't bother asking why in your questions, its too late in the game for that. What i have said above is what we as muslims believe.

you think israel will be destroyed soon? by whom? and how?
iran will not get a chance to use nuclear weapons against israel. there will be no second holocaust!

but, out of curiosity, how many jews do you think will be left alive in palestine after your 'justice' has been done?


At the rate the palestinians are being killed right now, i hope not a single zionist is spared. To hell with being PC, all zionists should be hung by their tongue.

One cannot help but feel this way, considering what is going on. May Allah strengthen our ummah. Ameen.


7. Racial vilification unlawful

(1) A person must not, on the ground of the race of another person or class of
persons, engage in conduct that incites hatred against, serious contempt for,
or revulsion or severe ridicule of, that other person or class of persons.

(2) For the purposes of subsection (1), conduct-

(a) may be constituted by a single occasion or by a number of occasions
over a period of time; and

(b) may occur in or outside Victoria.

Note Engage in conduct includes use of the internet or e-mail to publish or
transmit statements or other material*.


8. Religious vilification unlawful

(1) A person must not, on the ground of the religious belief or activity of
another person or class of persons, engage in conduct that incites hatred
against, serious contempt for, or revulsion or severe ridicule of, that other
person or class of persons.

Note Engage in conduct includes use of the internet or e-mail to publish or
transmit statements or other material*.


(2) For the purposes of subsection (1), conduct-

(a) may be constituted by a single occasion or by a number of occasions
over a period of time; and

(b) may occur in or outside Victoria.*


*emphasis added

2 Comments:

At 7:30 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off topic but I think this needs urgent attention.
I plan on being in Brisbane.

http://muslimvillage.com/forums/index.php?showforum=43

 
At 7:46 PM, Blogger Nilk said...

Anon, I have to work, but if you'd like to report back I'll be happy to post it for you.

I'm sure it will get the same favourable coverage that the demo down here the other day copped from the msm. After all, as we know. it's all Israel's fault.

/sarc

Oh, and needless to say, the one on the news had signs supplied by... the Socialist Alliance. Like that's a surprise!

 

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